Decoder with Nilay Patel · 2026-05-21 · 32 min · 6,166 words

Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing

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I'm I Garden and each week on Happy Hour, I invite old and new friends for a drink and a fun conversation at my kitchen table in New York City. On this week's episode, I'm joined by Andy Bergani. We talk all about how he started his career as a teenager at Shea Panese, to becoming an internet heartthrob from his cooking videos to opening his first restaurant in New York City this fall. New episodes of Happy Hour are available every Wednesday. You can watch on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Cheers. Welcome to Dakota. I'm Nila Patel, editor in chief of the Verge, and Dicotter is my show about big ideas and other problems.

Today I'm talking with Liz Lapata, who spent the last month covering the Musk V Altman trial and all of its chaos. You'll hear her describe the courthouse as a zoo. And explain that there are protests of one kind or another happening outside every single day. Both Elon Musk and Sam Albin are big personalities. People have lots of feelings about both of them in the AI industry.

And somehow, after all of this. Nothing really happened. The jury found that Elon had filed his lawsuit after the statute of limitations had run out. You'll hear Liz explain exactly why the jury had to find that and what else is going on here. Beyond the technicalities of the statute of limitations, this trial was nominally about Opening Eye's conversion to a for-profit entity from a nonprofit one. And if the way OpenEye went about that conversion cost Elon Musk money. But I think we all know this case was really about Elon Musk being mad at the same moment.

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