A Revealing Profile Of Trump Chief Of Staff Susie Wiles

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I am Terry Gross. The most powerful person in the Trump administration next to the president is someone you may never have heard of or seen, that is until yesterday, when a long article about her was published on the Vanity Fair website. And it surprised a lot of people because behind the scenes is where she typically wants to be. Now she's all over the news. She's Susie Wiles.

President Donald Trump's White House Chief of Staff and the first woman ever to serve as a presidential chief of staff. The article was written by my guest, Vanity Fair writer Chris Whipple, who managed to do eleven interviews with her over the past year. He'll tell us about what she had to say about subjects ranging from why she says Trump has an alcoholic's personality, even though he's not a drinker, the deal she made with Trump that he'd end his revenge tour in ninety days, He didn't, her take on several members of the cabinet, including Vice President J. D.

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