Ari Emanuel on Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and Mixing Business with Politics

The New Yorker Radio Hour is a co-production of WNYC and The New Yorker. Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. The Art of the Deal is the title, of course, of a famous book by Donald Trump, but if you really Want to know how deals are done, particularly in Hollywood, study the career of Ari Emmanuel.

Emmanuel runs WME, one of the biggest talent agencies in the industry, and you may remember him or the character based on him in the HBO series Entourage, the abrasive, hot tempered, profaned Hollywood operator called Ari Gold. Emmanuel has overseen the careers of Oprah Winfrey, Taylor Swift, Megan Marcus, Martin Scorsese and The Rock. His entertainment machine now includes World Wrestling Entertainment and UFC Fighting League, theaters on Broadway and in London, a ticketing company and much more. That global empire has put him very close to some of the most powerful people in the world.

including Donald Trump and Elon Musk. In a new memoir, Ari Emanuel describes the rage that fuels him, and he claims to make 300 phone calls every single day. We spoke this past week. Let's talk about what an agent does. Nobody outside of your little world and maybe my little world knows

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