How Revolut trains world-class product managers: The “local CEO” model, raw intellect over experience, and a cultural obsession with building wow products | Dmitry Zlokazov (Head of Product)

Everyone is striving for talented, skillful, smart people. Revolut values way more raw intellect and this. Unquenched hunger to build things rather than experience. I hear one of the ways you approach early products differently is you guys invest a lot in actually making it good. It's not getting traction. Is it because the underlying idea is wrong, or maybe your product just sucks? By forcing everyone to build a product that people will love. We kind of cut out this part of uncertainty. We can cut down the product in terms of functionality to to just. Most critical features, but we will never compromise on the quality and UX and the aesthetics. Is there anything that you've figured out about just how to set up new product for success? If something is ninety nine percent done, it's closer to zero percent rather than hundred percent.

Today my guest is Dmitry Zlacaza. Dimitri is global head of product at Revolute. Which is a finance super app, offering customers savings and checking accounts. Crypto, investing, joint accounts, even mortgages. Not only was it last valued at over sixty billion dollars, but in the research that I've been doing into which companies hire and incubate the best product managers, Revolute was right at the top, alongside Palantir and Intercom.

And so in our conversation, we dig into what Revolute has learned about producing and hiring great product leaders. Including a focus on ownership. Having people solve really painful and complex problems while making the experien and lovable by users. Also, indexing towards hiring really smart and driven people early in their career versus people with a ton of experience in the space. And so much more, if you're looking for a job that will accelerate your product career, or want to help your product team level up, this episode is for you.

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