Making Sense with Sam Harris · 2026-07-31 · 86 min · 16,785 words

#487 — Is AI Already Conscious?

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Cameron Berg. Thanks for coming on the podcast. Thanks for having me, Sam So um Well, let's get so we're gonna talk about AI and the prospect that AI is or It will soon become or will eventually become conscious.

Uh and why that is uh important to figure out. But uh l let's just talk about your background for a second. How did you get into this Yeah, sure. Yeah, so I've been studying cognitive science for my entire adult life. I studied undergrad at Yale, um, trying to understand what the relationship between the mind and the brain is. Um, this seemed like a fascinating frontier to me. The more I studied these questions.

The more it seemed like uh in the machine learning space. Folks were essentially Building out systems. That were similar in spirit, but it wasn't exactly clear to what degree we could draw analogies between

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