Fresh Air · 2026-03-02 · 48 min · 6,930 words

Jessie Buckley loves the ‘shadowy bits’ of her characters

Listen to the original audio · Transcribed with NVIDIA Parakeet · Timestamps stay in sync with the live audio

Public media is no longer federally funded, but the NPR network remains yours in service to and powered by you. Keep public media public with a donation today at donate.npr.org and thank you. This is Fresh Air. I am Terry Gross. The film Hamnet is nominated for eight Oscars, including Best Actress for my guest Jessie Buckley.

Hamnet's other nominations include Best picture, best director for Chloe Zhao, who's also nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay, along with Maggie O'Farrell, the author of the novel Hamnet, which the film is based on, Buckley plays William Shakespeare's wife, Anyas Hathaway. Little is known about Shakespeare's real wife, the film is largely an imagined version of her. What's true is that the couple's son, Hamnet, died at age eleven from the plague. In the film he catches it from his twin sister.

Shakespeare has already left the couple's home in the country to go to London and work on writing and staging his plays, and has promised to bring the rest of the family as soon as he settled and has a little more money. When Hamnet gets sick, and it's clear his life is in jeopardy, Anyas calls for her husband to come home, but he doesn't make it in time. Shakespeare and Hamlet don't get to say goodbye, and Agnes is left to experience the horror of her son's death without her husband. In this scene, when Shakespeare does return, she's angry that he came too late, but she also feels guilty that she didn't pay enough attention to Hamlet while she was caring for their daughter who survived the plague. Shakespeare is played by Paul Meskell.

That is the first couple of minutes. The rest is $1.

We already have this episode, so unlocking it is cheap and permanent: the full transcript (48 minutes, 6,930 words), segment and word-level timestamps, and .txt, .srt, .vtt and word-level JSON downloads, as many times as you like, forever.

No account needed, we create one from your checkout email. With credits it is 1 credit; packs start at 10 episodes for $5, and monthly plans are cheaper still.

get it now

Ready in about two minutes.

Pay once, no subscription. Credits never expire.

Transcribing every week? Monthly plans start at $9, about 23 cents an episode.

Secure checkout by Stripe. No account needed: we create one from your email. By paying you agree to the terms.