Patti Smith on the One Desire That Lasts Forever

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It wasn't my goal in life to become a rich and famous rock star or, you know, become like an arrogant asshole. You know, I just like, I wanted to do something important, hopefully, or something of worth. So back in 2010, I picked up this book that everyone seemed to be reading that year, Just Kids by Patty Smith. I had vaguely known who Patty Smith was, musician and artist. sometimes called the godmother of punk.

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