All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · 2026-03-06 · 83 min · 15,434 words

Inside the Iran War and the Pentagon's Feud with Anthropic with Under Secretary of War Emil Michael

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All right, everybody, emergency podcast time, episode 263 of all in. We have Emile Michael, the Under Secretary of War for Research and Engineering, working directly for Pete Hegsa. We had to get this out to you on Thursday night because it is an emergency pod. One of my old besties. Emile Michael is here.

Emile and I uh were part of Team Uber back in the day. He was Travis's right-hand man. Some might say fixer. And Emile Michael is now the Under Secretary for War here in the United States, serving his country, like our bestie David Sachs. Welcome to the program for the first time.

Emile Michael, how are you doing, brother? I'm doing good. Uh, I hope it was more than a fixer, but you know. Well, deal maker, fixer. I mean, you you got it done.

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