The Ezra Klein Show · 2025-03-21 · 73 min · 13,452 words

The Origins of Abundance

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Mm. From New York Times opinion. This is the Ezra Klein show. Mm

So this week, on Tuesday, March 18th, my book Abundance came out. I am excited about it, you've heard parts of it on the show. And I've been trying to restrain myself from completely overloading this feed with content about the book or its ideas. But I did do this show with my co-author, Derek Thompson, on his great podcast, Plain English. And Derek took us through something that I really enjoyed and hadn't expected to do. Which is uh an intellectual genealogy of the book, uh how this came to be, both in terms of he and I working together, he and I coming to these ideas, and all of the other different writers and forces and and movements and researchers. who helped inform it.

I thought it was worth sharing with all of you, too. As recline Hello and welcome. I am thrilled to be on Plain English. What a wonderful and rare opportunity to talk to you about abundance. This is exciting. Uh, we're gonna answer somewhere between 10,000 and 11 billion questions about this book in the next few weeks. So I wanted to hold this conversation to the relatively high bar of

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