Google CEO Sundar Pichai on the next phase of AI

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Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neil I Patel, editor and chief of the Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. This week I'm talking to Google and Alphabet CEO Sundar Pachai. In what's becoming a little bit of a decoder tradition, we spoke in person after the big Google I.O. developer conference. This is the third year in a row that Cindar's been on decoder after I.O. And this one felt really different.

Google's in a very confident place right now, and you can really feel that in this conversation. If you caught any of the news from IO, you know why. Google announced a huge new set of AI products that are shipping imminently, not just models and capabilities. Sunar told me that these products represent a new phase of the AI platform shift. And we talked about that at length, how that shift is playing out, what the markers of these phases are, and whether any of these products can actually deliver a return on the huge investments that Google has been making in AI over the years. I.O. also marked the beginning of what appears to be a new era for search in the web. Google's new vision for search goes well beyond links to web pages, to something that feels a lot more like custom app development.

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