10% Happier with Dan Harris · 2025-08-01 · 35 min · 5,893 words

How To Find Joy In an Anxious World | Sara Bareilles and Dacher Keltner

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This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris. Hello everybody, how we doing? Sometimes I get invited to do some cool shit out in the world and today We're gonna bring some of that cool shit to you.

The New York Times, as you may know, has a whole vertical called Well that's about health, not just physical health, but also mental health. And the editor of Well is a very smart woman named Lori Libovich, who was actually my girlfriend in eighth grade at Charles Brown middle school or junior high. in uh Newton, Massachusetts. Anyway, Lori recently organized the first ever Well festival in New York City back on May 7th, which featured a number of great speakers, including many of the people who've been on this show, longevity expert Peter Atia, the writer Soleika Jawad, the happiness researcher Dr. Robert Waldinger, to name just a few.

And Lori asked me, and this is, I don't know if it qualifies as nepotism per se, but something close to that, Lori asked me to take part in this amazing day-long event. And I hosted and contributed to a session called How to Find Joy in an Anxious World with two people who've also been past guests on this show, the singer and writer Sarah Borellis and the psychologist and academic Daker Keltner. Sarah Daker and I talked about panic attacks, different things that we've all tried to manage our own anxiety, how being outside in nature can be helpful. and how meditation does not have to look the same way for everybody.

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