How a Group of Broke 20-Somethings Accidentally Launched the Mindfulness Movement | Jack Kornfield, Joseph Goldstein and Sharon Salzberg

Hey, hey, welcome to the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. This is an episode about the fact that even Buddhists fight. Even Buddhists struggle. Just because you start practicing meditation or practicing the precepts of Buddhism does not mean, as I often joke, that your life is going to be magically transformed into a nonstop parade of rainbow barfing unicorns.

Perfection is not on offer, but The practice of meditation can help you manage the ups and downs of life more seamlessly, especially when it comes to one of the difficult, one of the most difficult aspects of life, and that is interpersonal relationships. What you're about to hear is a conversation with the five co-founders of the Insight Meditation Society, or IMS. It's a legendary retreat center. in Barrie, Massachusetts, which just celebrated its 50th anniversary.

But just because the co founders, who were very young at the time of the founding, had a lofty mission, just because they were doing something Buddhist in nature did not mean that it was all smooth sailing, as you're about to hear. My guests today are Sharon Salzberg, Jack Cornfield, and Joseph Goldstein, three teachers who have appeared on this show many times. along with two people I had never spoken to before this conversation, Jacqueline Mandel and Stephen Schwartz, who were right there at the beginning. I uh really appreciated this conversation because all five of these people have dedicated their lives to a mission that has changed so many other lives, including my own. If you are meditating today, it is highly likely that the karmic cause is the work of these five people.

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