The Ezra Klein Show · 2025-07-29 · 63 min · 10,272 words

Best Of: Barbara Kingsolver on ‘Urban-Rural Antipathy’

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33 presidents. I called the president at 4 30 in the morning and he answered. Seven decades in space. We want to see what's beyond the next star. 60 Super Sundays.

They were probably the best team in the league every single year. 53,500 puzzles. I use a different starting word every day. 25,000 recipes. And I love

A one-can recipe because I don't love washing cans. The New York Times, celebrating 175 years of helping you understand the world. Subscribe now at nytimes.com slash subscribe. Today I want to share one of my favorite conversations from our archives. This is from 2023.

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