The Contradictions of Gavin Newsom
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That Gavin Newsome, the governor of California, might want to run for president someday. I mean, that's been widely believed for a long time. That Gavin Newsome, the governor of California, would have a chance if he ran for president. That was less widely believed. Liberal white guy from a state
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