The New Yorker Radio Hour · 2026-06-18 · 51 min · 7,182 words

Hillary Clinton on How Donald Trump Lost the Iran War

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The New Yorker Radio Hour is a co-production of WNYC and The New Yorker. Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. I last sat down with Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2017. Clinton was still working through everything that had gone so badly wrong the year before, how she'd lost the election, and how Donald Trump had come to occupy the White House.

Trump had campaigned with the chant of locker up, a threat that electrified so many of his supporters. Clinton for them was not merely a political opponent, but somehow the embodiment of evil. Now it's been almost a decade and Donald Trump has, for the most part, moved on to yet other enemies, but Clinton remains very much a power broker in the Democratic Party, and a leader of its centrist wing. She's also a voice of authority on US foreign policy.

With the Clinton Foundation, she's advocated for bringing down the cost of AIDS drugs worldwide and getting phones out of classrooms. I sat down with Hillary Clinton again this past week to talk about the war in Iran, Joe Biden's doomed campaign for the presidency, and how America might perhaps begin to move beyond Trumpism. We met on stage at the 92nd Street Y in New York City. Secretary Clinton, in your book, Something Lost, Something Gained, you write about your state of mind after the election.

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