All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · 2026-06-13 · 102 min · 19,056 words

Anthropic's Fable Backlash, Nationalizing AI, Inflation Heats Up & California's Broken Elections

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Everybody's here for a big, big week, lots of debates. And we gotta start with Anthropic. Anthropic released a mythos level model with some interesting guardrails and uh seems as though Dario is back to blogging. Okay, the model's called Fable 5. No idea why they're calling it that.

released on Tuesday and it tops every benchmark, nearly every benchmark. The tokens, however, cost twice as much as Opus 4.8, but it should use less tokens overall because it's theoretically that much better. Unclear if this is going to alleviate some of the handwringing around the cost of tokens. But you remember in April, Anthropic famously did not release Mythos because publicly it had some strong hacking capabilities.

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