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Head of Claude Code: What happens after coding is solved | Boris Cherny

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A hundred percent of my code is written by Quad Code. I have not edited it a single line by hand since November. Every day I ship 10, 20, 30 pull requests. So like at the moment I have like five agents running. While we're recording this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you miss writing code? I have never enjoyed coding as much as I do today because I don't have to deal with all the minutiae. Productivity per engineer has increased 200%. There's always this question, should I learn to code? In a year or two, it's not gonna matter. Coding is largely solved. I imagine a world or where everyone is able to program. Anyone can just build software anytime. What's the next big shift to how software is written? Quad is starting to come up with ideas. It's looking through back, it's looking at bug reports, it's looking at telemetry for bug fixes and things to shift a little more like a co worker or something like that. A lot of people listening to this are product managers and they're probably sweating. I think by the end of the year, everyone's gonna be a product manager and everyone codes. The title software engineer is gonna start to go away. It's just gonna be replaced by builder and it's gonna be painful for a lot of people. Today my guest is Boris Cherney, head of Claude Code at Anthropic. It is hard to describe the impact that Claude Code has had on the world.

Around the time this episode comes out will be the one year anniversary of Claude Code. And in that short time. І та з комплект the job of a software інженер. And it is now starting to transform the jobs of many other functions in tech, which we talk about. Cloud Code itself is also a massive driver of Anthropic's overall growth over the past year. They just raised a round at over$350 billion.

And as Vorce mentions, the growth of Cloud Code itself is still accelerating. Just in the past month, their daily active users has doubled. Boris is also just a really interesting, thoughtful, deep thinking human. And during this conversation, we discover we were born in the same city in Ukraine. That is so funny, I had no idea.

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