Hot takes and techno-optimism from tech’s top power couple | Sriram and Aarthi

I hate jobs to be done. I think it's a terrible framework. I think no successful company has ever been built on top of J D B D. And if you pick J D B D you're probably doomed. And I'll give you an example. When you sign up for Instagram right now, when you sign up for Facebook for many, many years, Facebook knew that it needed to get you to 10 friends in fourteen days. If you got you 10 friends in 14 days, you're probably gonna use Facebook. So it'll be like Well, if you were to throw every tool we have at our disposal to get you to 10 friends in 14 days. So if you sign up for Facebook for many, many years, you'll get this little thing called people you may know. And it'll show you. Then you have this person who just signed up for Facebook game. Why you don't see this person? It's not because you need a friend. 'Cause they need a friend. So what Facebook did was it made your experience slightly worse. to make that person's experience slightly better. This was performing no job for you.

You're trying to perform a job for them. Welcome to Lenny's Podcast, where I interview world class product leaders and growth experts to learn from their hard won experiences building and growing today's most successful products. Today, for the first time ever, I've got two guests. Arthur Ramamarthi and Sri Ram Krishna. Both former product managers who've between them worked at basically every major tech company, including Netflix, Meta, Snap, Twitter, Microsoft, even Clubhouse.

Sri Rom is now a partner at A sixteen Z. They're actually married? and both individually amazing. Together they host the Arty and Sri Rom Good Time show. Which started on Clubhouse, it's now on YouTube. And famously they had Elon Musk on.

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