The Rich Roll Podcast · 2026-03-02 · 103 min · 17,451 words

The Handyman of High Art: Tom Sachs On Why Creativity Is The Enemy, Why Talent Is Overrated, & The Disciplines That Define A Life

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I make stuff. I don't care if it's a painting or a poem or a podcast or a book. It's all sculpture to me. Tom Sachs is an artist. He's a sculptor.

He is a designer. The prolific New York-based artist whose work defies categorization. The very, very human artist. Beneath that is this idea of the power of storytelling. I despite

I despise the elitism of the art world. There should be a sign on every work of art on the wall that says you don't need to read this sign to understand this art. Authenticity is everything. Artists do not have a corner on creativity. What are the kind of things that I want to make?

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