Infinite Loops · 2026-04-02 · 100 min · 17,100 words

Johnathan Bi - Why the Best Founders Might Need a Little Delusion (Ep. 308)

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The most successful people that I've met are the least probably self-aware and they are motivated by certain pathologies and delusions that they are not themselves aware. What motivates action is actually not truth. It is forgetting. It is the ability to forget certain things. If you were to choose the best men of action at a certain time, I think they would almost always be motivated by delusion.

Delusions that would pop if they were too introspective. If you want to produce an innovative society, I think you're going to have to have a lot of crazy people. My guest today is a repeat guest, Jonathan B. And today we cover a wide range of topics from his great books, lecture series to his partnership with Cosmos. and a very intriguing idea about what great founders are truly like.

This is a great conversation with Jonathan. Please enjoy it. Jonathan, what, third time that you've been on Infinite Loops? Third time. Welcome.

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