Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in space

Hogging seats on a crowded train, not saying excuse me, watching videos on your phone with no headphones in. Sometimes it feels like we don't know how to act anymore. What we have been seeing, increasingly, is people breaking rules. Why should I play by the rules if nobody else is going to do that for me? This week on Explain It to Me, how to mind your manners.

New episodes Sundays wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neilai Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Chuck Robbins, the CEO of Cisco. Cisco is one of those big companies that everyone has heard of, but most of us don't have to interact with very much.

This is not really a consumer brand. But all of us are in some way using Cisco's products and services every day, because Cisco makes a huge amount of networking equipment for other big companies like telecoms and ISPs. It's a lock that somewhere between me recording this and you listening to it, the bits have passed through Cisco's products. Without the actual routers and switches and silicon and the software to make those things work, there's no internet, there's no cloud, and there's no AI.

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