10% Happier with Dan Harris · 2026-01-25 · 25 min · 3,855 words

How To Handle 4 AM Worry Spirals | Bart van Melik

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This is the 10% happier podcast of Dan Harris. Hey gang, today we are talking about one of my favorite hobbies, worrying. Our guest is so good at worrying that he calls himself a worry warrior. However, said guest is also a veteran Dharma teacher, which means he also has a bunch of tools for working with worry skillfully. The guest in question is Bart Van Melek.

He's a guiding teacher at the Community Meditation Center in New York. He's also our teacher of the month over on our new app, 10% with Dan Harris, which means Bart will be creating new meditations and also appearing in some of our weekly live meditation and Q<unk>A sessions. If you want to sign up, head on over to danharris.com. There's a free 14-day trial if you want to try before you buy. We'll get started with Bart Van Melek in conversation with the executive producer of this show, DJ Kashmir, right after this.

Most of us can remember being about fifteen and feeling completely invisible, or worse, extremely visible, but for the wrong reasons. I remember one year when I was a teenager I had a a pimple in the crevice of my nose for the entire year. I didn't like that. Either way, even if we have painful memories of that age, Most of us tend to soften it in memory, and it was actually harder than we remember it now.

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