Hinge: Justin McLeod (2021)

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And before we start the show, I recently heard a great business story from the music world. I was interviewing the rapper Macklemore and he took me back to a time when record labels were offering him millions of dollars, and he had to make a choice whether to stay independent with more risk and more reward, or take the upfront cash and the security that comes with that. To hear how it played out, check out my interview with Mac Lamore on my other podcast, The Great Creators. Just search for the Great Creators with Guy Raz, wherever you listen to podcasts. And for today's show, we are running an interview from the archives that is so full of good stories and so full of great lessons that I'm gonna stop talking right now so we can get straight to it. So Enjoy.

We did the relaunch, you know, my first instinct was obviously to like go raise money. So I was talking to every VC. But No one will give me money. Wow. I mean I was begging. Yeah. I had this like one investor that was really holding out for And I remember the partner at the VC firm called me and

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