A Bit of Optimism · 2026-01-20 · 56 min · 12,058 words

Revisited: Trevor Noah Makes My Brain Hurt

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This is a very deep conversation that you said you don't like small topics. No, no, no, but people but but I but I put a when we promote the podcast, we've got a picture of Trevor Noah and we'll put a little clip and people are like, I'm gonna listen to this one, it's gonna be so funny. I mean we can still make jokes. I love to think, but more important, I love to think about things that make my head hurt. I like really difficult, complicated things that there's no

obvious right or wrong, which means I love people who make me think about those things. And one of the best people who does this is Trevor Noah. You may know Trevor from The Daily Show and is a stand-up comedian and best-selling author. What I love him for is for his intense ability to think about things and see things that the rest of us don't see. This episode is intense and it'll definitely make you think and it'll definitely make your head hurt in a good way.

This is a bit of optimism. Trevor, always a joy to see you and sit down with you. Always fun, my friend. I've never sat down with you ever, ever, ever and not learned something or had my perspective changed about something because of that insane mind that you have that I so There's a lot of pressure on our conversations now. I feel like one day we should hang out and not talk about anything new or interesting.

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