The New Yorker Radio Hour · 2025-12-12 · 28 min · 4,091 words

Leon Panetta on the Trump Administration’s Venezuelan Boat Strikes

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This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker. Welcome to the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. Some of Donald Trump's most alarming ideas concern military force and the almost unlimited latitude he grants himself as commander-in-chief. Trump has talked about using the military

Against protesters. In the 2020 election, there was the idea that troops might seize ballot boxes for a recount. This year he's deployed the National Guard into U.S. cities to assist ICE or to reduce crime, and he's rebranded the Department of Defense as the Department of War. Now Trump seems to be ramping up a conflict with Venezuela.

He says of President Nicolas Maduro, his days are numbered. This week the U.S. seized a sanctioned Oil tankers said to be carrying Venezuelan oil, and for months the Navy has been striking and destroying alleged drug boats. In particular, there's the matter of a second missile strike on one boat for the purpose of killing the survivors of the first strike.

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