The Ezra Klein Show · 2025-06-11 · 75 min · 10,712 words

Ehud Olmert on Israel's Catastrophic War in Gaza

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I'm John Caramonica, a critic at The New York Times. And I'm Joe Cascarelli, a culture reporter at The Times. Together we host Popcast, a weekly pop culture chat show where we speak to the biggest musicians, actors, internet celebrities, and more. We've had Bad Bunny, Olivia Rodrigo, and Anne Hathaway. We've also hosted live performances with Andre 3000 and Erica Badu.

Plus we end every conversation with a snack. Catch new episodes of Popcast every week on YouTube and anywhere you get your podcasts. I don't think it's possible at this point to overstate how hellish life in Gaza has been over the past 20 months. The death count is above 50,000 people, more than 15,000 of whom are children. At least 1.9 million of the 2.1 million Gazans have been displaced and displaced.

and displaced. Some have been forced to flee their homes, shelters, camps, some 10 times or more. Starvation is everywhere. Some 500,000 people are in a catastrophic condition of hunger. For 11 weeks Israel allowed no aid into Gaza.

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