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Jocko Podcast · 2025-06-25 · 114 min · 20,953 words

496: Toxic Leadership. This Is How You Spot It. This Is How You Know.

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This is Jocko podcast number 496 with Echo Charles and me, Jocko Wheeling. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. So I get asked a lot of questions for years get asked question uh questions about toxic leadership. Right?

Questions like, what do you do if I you know, what should I do if I have a toxic leader or how do you handle a company when there's toxic leadership? That kind of thing. But the problem with the term toxic leadership and toxicity and specifically toxic leadership is that's a such a broad term. And, you know, when someone tells me they have a toxic leader, it could mean a whole bunch of different things, even though we kind of all know what it means, right?

It means bad leadership. That's what everyone's implying. Well, I found a paper um written by an army colonel that was at the at the uh army war college and It it's just a paper about toxic leaders and the characteristics of toxic leaders and then the types of toxic leaders that they became become. And I think it's really when when I read it, it's one of those things how, you know, when you get a a certain type of car and then you look you're driving around and you keep seeing that type of car everywhere?

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