James Kimmel Jr. Talks About The Science of Revenge and the Power of Forgiveness

Quick one first. There's a word we lost somewhere between the factory and the laptop. My new book is called Productiveness, and mikevardi.com slash productiveness is where you can get it. Okay, in we go. James, thanks so much for taking the time to join me today on a productive conversation.

First off, uh, tell me a little bit about you. Sure. So I I'm a lecturer in psychiatry and violence researcher at the Yale School of Medicine. Uh, that's not how I started my life, however. I started my life as a lawyer.

Uh, and I started my life as a lawyer uh because uh in in part of a pretty horrific bullying experience that I had as a uh kind of as a teenager and That happened when my family moved us to, or my dad, my parents moved my brother and I to a uh a s a farm in central Pennsylvania, kind of a small farm that had been owned by my great-grandfather. And when we got there, I was about 12 years old and I wanted to become friends with the surrounding farm kids who lived on these big dairy farms that were in uh central Pennsylvania. And unfortunately they weren't having it.

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