The Psychology of Serial Killers

The Michael Shermer Show. So what's your story? How do you go from helping people in their marriages and their sex lives to figuring out serial killers? Well, it's a it's a great question. Well, first of all, thank you for having me on the show. I've been really excited to meet you and really excited to to get into it because I've watched several of your podcasts and I've read a lot of what you've written at this point and I just am pretty impressed and I I thought initially that we might not be uh before I I learned about you and learned about your thoughts about things and how open and uh skeptical you can be, but I actually think we might be on the same page about a lot of issues uh that we're gonna get into. So I'm excited about this, but we'll see. I could be totally wrong.

Um, but okay, how did I get into this? Well, uh, you know, I always say it started when I was five, but in my opinion, it like like if like all the people we're about to talk about, it starts well before age five. uh, believe it or not, which is what I talk about in my show, all human beings, um, most important age is in anyone's life happen between zero and three, which we'll get to, but for me Um, yeah, I witnessed the death of a young girl who got hit and killed by a car.

And she um she I just come off the set of Guy Madden's uh So I just I've been working, so it was a five year old. It was Guy Madden, he's kind of like the David Lynch of Canada. So I don't know if you've heard of him, but uh he's got a lot of strange films, and um, it was his very first day ever shooting a film called Dead Father. And what's amazing. about even the title is I think what we're gonna get into more about what father figures in the

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