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ReThinking · 2026-02-10 · 41 min · 6,996 words

Taking politicians out of politics with Hélène Landemore

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This episode is sponsored by Capital One. Capital One's tech team isn't just talking about multi-agentic AI, they already deployed one. It's called Chat Concierge and it's simplifying car shopping. Using self-reflection and layered reasoning with live API checks, it doesn't just help buyers find a car they love, it helps schedule a test drive, get pre-approved for financing, and estimate trade-in value. Advanced, intuitive, and deployed.

That's how they stack. That's technology at Capital One. In my ideal vision, yes, we are replacing elected officials with ordinary citizens for the purpose of legislation. And I understand it's a leap, but that's a leap that the Greeks did first. That's a real test of your faith in ordinary citizens.

Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the science of what makes us tick. I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking. Elaine Lanmore is a political scientist at Yale who studies democracy. She's written at length about the role everyday people can play in the politics that shape their lives, and she has a bold idea for fixing politics.

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