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The Michael Shermer Show · 2026-10-11 · 42 min · 6,178 words

Racism and White Guilt: Has America Changed More Than We Admit? | Shelby Steele & Eli Steele

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Hey everybody, it's Michael Shermer. It's time for another episode of the Michael Shermer Show. My guest today, two guests today, Eli Steele is a filmmaker. And writer. He's made over twenty documentaries, including How Jack Became Black. What killed Michael Brown And killing America.

He's written for the Wall Street Journal. City Journal, Quillette, and other publications, and he's the son of the great Shelby Steele. Shelby's been on the show before. He is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute of Stanford University and the author of several books, including Here it is, the content of our character. I taught out of that book in nineteen ninety, Shelby. Nineteen ninety. And look Here's my notes, handwritten notes that I use that I made from your book, nineteen ninety. I'm gonna come back to that later in the show. But uh that was one of my favorite books of all time. And it It deservedly won the National Book Critics Circle Award. He also wrote

White guilt upon which the new documentary film by Eli is about that I'll introduce shortly. Also a bound man, shame and Shame how America's past sins have polarized our country. He's won numerous awards, including an Emmy Award, a National Humanities Medal, presented by George W. Bush And Bradley Prize.

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