Huberman Lab · 2025-12-08 · 150 min · 24,524 words

Master the Creative Process | Twyla Tharp

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You have a reputation for having risen early and gotten to the gym by 5 a.m. for two hours, day in after day out. Tell us about that ritual and uh do you still enjoy it? It's not a ritual and I never enjoyed it. It's a reality and uh you do it because you need an instrument that you can challenge.

Just set the mechanism for the day you're gonna have to do it. It's kind of boring and it's kind of loathsome. Could you give us a bit of insight into your inner dialogue around days when you don't want to go? Is there a self-talk or have you learned to push aside the the voice that says, maybe not today? It's simple.

If you don't work when you don't want to work, you're not going to be able to work when you do want to work. Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast, where we discuss science and science-based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew Huberman and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. My guest today is Twyla Tharp. Twyla Tharp is a world-renowned dancer and choreographer.

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