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Jocko Podcast · 2026-09-30 · 149 min · 30,755 words

560: Leadership Is A Skill. Train It. With Jamie Cochran.

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This is Jonko Podcast number five sixty with Echo Charles and me, Jonko Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. Also joining us tonight is Jamie Cochran. Jamie is the chief operating officer. at Ash on front, which is our leadership consultancy. She's a military spouse, or at least she was a military spouse. She was married to a SEAL officer that worked with Laif and that I put through training.

And she has been with us since two thousand fourteen. She rose up through the ranks. And we discussed her background and how she ended up where she is now. on the podcast a few years ago, which is ep episode three eighty eight. So if you want to get the entire backstory on Jamie Conchran, check out episode three eighty eight. And she's an integral part of everything that happens at Echelon Front. She oversees everything as the COO and she also runs an event called the assembly, which is

A leadership event specifically For women. And we'll talk about how that came to fruition. But She does everything else at Echelon Front and today we were recently we were talking about some

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