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Jocko Podcast · 2025-12-17 · 146 min · 25,817 words

519: A Soldier’s Pain, Purpose, and the Brotherhood That Endures. Crazy Joe Claburn Pt.2

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This is Jocko podcast number 519 with Echo Charles and me, Jocko Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. Also, still with us, uh, Crazy Joe Claiburn. If you haven't listened to 516 yet, we that's we just uh that's the the first podcast that we did talking about Crazy Joe Claiburn who served with us in the Battle of Romati and was just an integral part of the operations there and

just an amazing human being. So we started, we went four hours deep on that podcast. Of course I opened it up with a welcome to Romadi bitch speech from crazy Joe Claiburn. We talked through that, but we were at four hours, so we called it, but we came back and now we're gonna talk about we're gonna pick up that story, which is you were had orders to Ranger School to be an instructor at Ranger School. This is post

This is post-one deployment to Afghanistan, the initial deployment to Iraq, your Ramadi deployment to Iraq, a period of time spent with a Pathfinder element where you trained them up, and then you get finally get orders you're going to go to ranger school and be a ranger instructor, company commander. And you get a little phone call that the army needs something else from you. And what the army needs from you is they need you to swap with an another guy who had a exceptional family member need. And that guy needed to go to be the ranger instructor, company commander, and you, Joe Claiburn, instead of going to Fort Benning, Georgia, were going to England. to be an officer in the British parachute regiment.

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