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The Next Big Idea · 2026-04-06 · 51 min · 9,277 words

How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay

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I'm Panio Gianopoulos. And I'm Caleb Bissinger. And this is the next big idea. Today, how to be okay when nothing is okay. Ponio, how are ya?

I'm good. You? You know, I'm okay. Nicely done. Thank you.

So you're here because you're in the host chair today. You sat down with Jenny Lawson and she's got a new book out. It's called How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay. What drew you to this one? Honestly, the title is classic Jenny Lawson.

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