Mindset: Why Fixing Your Habits Won't Fix Your Self-Trust with Lester Clowes

Welcome back to Beyond the To-do List, a podcast about productivity. I'm your host, Eric Fisher. My guest today spent more than 9,000 hours across the coaching table, and a decade before that running a school system and He's been he's built an entire practice arguing against the exact motivational content that he used to be hooked on himself. I know that he used to listen to this show or still does, so let's not let's hopefully not count that into the stuff he used to listen to or was hooked on, but still is hooked on. Anyway. So his new book is Stop Lying to Yourself, and it's about the quiet lies the capable

Organized people. Tell themselves right up until Nothing changes. Lester Claus, welcome to the show. Thanks for being here. Yeah, absolutely. And I still consider your show part of the good guys, Eric. Okay. So Good. Glad to be in the fold. So uh here's what made me want to have this conversation. So back in January, and I know you know this, uh I did a solo episode on agency versus the illusion of control, how to be

On top of things. Uh how um How Trying to be on top of things quietly turns into your self-worth and your your purpose and

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