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The Michael Shermer Show · 2026-03-24 · 85 min · 12,888 words

Lionel Shriver on Immigration, Religion, and the Decline of the West

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What has happened to liberals over the last or the left or left to center, whatever you want to call it, over the last 15 to 20 years? What civil rights means now has changed. It now means that of the right of men to go in women's bathrooms and compete against women in women's sports. That's what s backing civil rights means now. The marriage between the left and and Islam is so irrational as to be utterly baffling.

They don't share any views aside from general hostility to the West. I've heard from any number of left of center Americans who've been to Europe recently, and they're horrified. Left of center Americans. They think, what the hell happened? All the major cities are overwhelmed with massive Muslim populations.

And yet these are the same people who want to have an extremely permissive immigration policy in the United States. What's happening now? It's not just people coming over the border to have children. This whole thing in China is an industry. So not only are they flying women over who are pregnant to have children

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