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Ideas · 2026-07-09 · 55 min · 8,406 words

The fear of fire is taking control of us

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Jesse Eisenberg says community theater saved his life. Without it, we might not know him as Mark Zuckerberg and the social network. We might not have the zombie land as we know it now. But even Jesse Eisenberg knows that a lot of people just don't get musical theater. Musical theater is inherently very silly.

There's something so ridiculously earnest about it. On Cue with Tom Power, Jesse talks about his new film The Debut, starring Julianne Moore as a shy housewife-turned actor, and Paul Giamatti as a theater director who pushes her to her limits and beyond. Hear that conversation now on Cue with me, Tom Power. This is a CBC podcast. This episode of Ideas originally ran in 2024.

Welcome to Ideas. I'm Nala Ayed. Earth, air, and water are the three elements that make life possible. But it's Fire that made us human.

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