Trump, Podcasters and the New Age of Confusion, with Jamie Bartlett
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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm the head of programming, Conor Boyle. Our guest today is Jamie Bartlett, author and journalist whose work focuses on the intersection of information and politics. After the election of Donald Trump as president of the United States, I wanted to speak to him about how social media on the rise of podcasts has influenced the election result and continues to shape global politics. Let's go to the episode now. I'm delighted to be joined today by Jamie Bartlett. Uh if you've listened to Intelligence Squared across the years, you'll be very familiar with his work. He's the author of books, including The People versus Tech. The missing crypto queen.
Which was based on the hit podcast in which he investigates the one coin scandal and its enigmatic leader, Doc Ruja Ignatova. And he also writes at the sub stack. How to Survive the Internet, which is an excellent newsletter. I highly recommend that you subscribe to So Jane
A lot of people were shocked or uh surprise that Trump won the election. You weren't surprised. Why why weren't you surprised? Oh, wow, lots of reasons and I know we're gonna be digesting this for months, aren't we? And trying to work out what was important and what wasn't. But there were a couple of things that I suppose really stood out for me. And obviously my interest is the relationship between information and politics, I suppose, and
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