Becoming a Not-So-Secretly Candid Leader with Chloé van Bergen 7 | 24

Hello everybody, welcome to the Radical Canner Podcast. I'm Kim Scott. I'm Amy Sandler, and today we are excited to chat with someone that our audio engineer, Nick Kurismi, met out in the wild. This is Chloe von Bergen, Vice President of Operations at Secretly Group, which is a leading independently owned music company.

Chloe has more than 15 years experience in the creative industry sector, fluent in five languages. Chloe is here today to discuss her experiences introducing radical candor at what could be described as a complex legacy driven company. You can flesh that out further for us, Chloe. So you've had to navigate unionization, address cultural barriers, and Chloe's going to share what we believe is a really grounded look at leadership, communication, and driving change at scale.

So welcome Chloe. Thank you for having me. Thrilled that you're here. I would love to hear the story about how you and Nick, I think you were at a wedding, how you came to be talking about radical candor at a wedding. I guess I will jump in.

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