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#862: Cathy Lanier, Chief Security Officer of the NFL — From 9th-Grade Dropout to DC's Longest-Serving Police Chief, Protecting the Super Bowl, and Resilience Under Extreme Pressure

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Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferris. Welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferris Show. Greetings from Austin, Texas. My job is, as always, to deconstruct world class performers to tease out how they do what they do. My guest today, I have wanted to have on for years. Her name is Kathy Lanier. Kathy Lanier is the chief security officer of the National Football League. You may know it as the NFL, where she oversees security across the league office in all thirty-two clubs. There is a lot. that goes into that, not to mention the Super Bowl. Before the NFL, she served as chief of police of Washington, DC, from two thousand seven to two thousand sixteen. She was the first woman in the role and the longest serving chief in the forces' history. Her strategies helped cut violent crime by twenty one percent, even as the city's population grew fifteen percent. She's a graduate of the FBI National Academy and holds a master's in national security studies from the Naval Postgraduate School. Everything related

to Kathy Lanier is a study in resilience. And endurance. and applying technology and systems level thinking to everything. So it is uncommon that you get to hear anything from Kathy online or elsewhere. So I was very, very grateful to have this time with her. Please enjoy. Without further ado This wide ranging conversation with

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