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Intelligence Squared · 2026-04-21 · 30 min · 5,808 words

Demis Hassabis and Sebastian Mallaby on The Quest for Artificial General Intelligence (Part Two)

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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Serenti. In this episode, we'll return for part two of our recent live event with CEO and co-founder of Google Deepmind and Nobel laureate, Demis Hassabis, and journalist and author of The Infinity Machine, Sebastian Malaby. Hassabis and Malaby joined us recently at Friend's House in London to discuss the rise of artificial intelligence and the pursuit of AGI. They were in conversation with co anchor of Opening Trade on Bloomberg TV, Tom Mackenzie.

If you haven't heard part one, we recommend jumping back an episode to catch up. But now let's return to the conversation live at Friends House in London. We're living in a moment where we're thinking about AI in warfare, whether it's in Ukraine or in Iran. We're thinking about maybe some of us anthropic and mythos and cybersecurity. The clear positive is that is that guiding light that you've had throughout your life, which is scientific discovery and specifically Alpha Fold 2, Alpha Fold 3, isomorphic labs.

Is that where when we think about the risks, benefits balance for for AI and AGI, is it very clear for you that it's medical advances and biology that that some of the some of the clearest wins that we're going to see? So I look, I I spent my whole life working on AGI because I believe it's the ultimate tool for science and broadly construed. So science and medicine. I think the number one thing we can apply AI to is curing terrible diseases. So number two on my list would be helping with the environment and finding energy source, new renewable energy sources.

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