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Intelligence Squared · 2025-07-13 · 35 min · 5,374 words

What can Charlottesville teach us about America’s national story? With Deborah Baker

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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Sorenti. In August 2017, over a thousand neo-Nazis, fascists, clan members, and neo-confederates descended on a small southern city to protest the pending removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee. What happened in Charlottesville? And how did so few see it coming?

What does it reveal about the myths we tell ourselves about America? In this episode, we speak to Deborah Baker. Pulitzer Prize finalist and author of Charlottesville about the harrowing events of August 2017. When a violent far right rally turned a quiet college town into a national flash point. But rather than focus solely on the extremists, Baker turns her lens on the city itself. Its institutions, its history, and the people who tried to stop the violence before it began.

Let's join our host, Mithelee Rao. With more. Welcome to Intelligence Squared, I'm Mythali Rao. I know of very few places more beautiful than Charlottesville, Virginia. The city is nestled in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains and it's laden with history.

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