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Intelligence Squared · 2026-10-12 · 80 min · 14,029 words

Can Pigs Really Appreciate Bach? Katherine Rundell Live

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Welcome to Intelligent Squared Live, the podcast that gives you a front row seat to the conversations, debates, and ideas that matter. I'm Mia Sarenti. What can the world's most extraordinary animals teach us about the natural world? Or what do we stand to lose if they disappear? Today's episode is from our recent live event with best selling author Catherine Rundle. His writing celebrates the wonders of the animal kingdom and the urgent need to protect its most vulnerable inhabitants.

Following the success of the Golden Mole, Brendel joined us at Conway Hall to discuss her new book, Napoleon's Orangutang. which introduces twelve remarkable creatures and explores the surprising stories behind them. From Napoleon's pet orangutan to pigs that can distinguish between bark and a brass band, Rundle reveals the intelligence, strangeness, and beauty of the animals we share our planet with, and why their survival matters. Let's join our host Shahidabari now with more. So it's lovely to see you. Thank you so much.

For joining us today at Conway Hall. It's lovely to have a full ish house. On An evening uh on a Wednesday evening and Pass some people's bedtime, but they're here too. Excellent. That's what we like to see. Um lots of people's bedtime, I imagine, too. Um I'm Shah Hidabari, I'm an academic critic and a broadcaster, and I'll be your host for this conversation with Captain Rundle. Uh I think Writers are most are supposed to make you

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