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Jocko Podcast · 2026-05-27 · 178 min · 42,537 words

542: Stronghold: War, Rescue, and Resistance. With Ephraim Mattos

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This is the Jocko podcast number 542 with Echo Charles and me, Jocko Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. On the morning of Thursday, June 8th, 2023, just a few miles from the location of the massacre, the Burma army attacked several villages looking to root out and kill any of the villagers who would dare defend themselves from the Burma army's tyranny. Mortars rained down on unsuspecting civilians, killing some and wounding others, as the Burma army assaulted the undefended villages.

However, on this day, things went differently. Reacting quickly to the mortar barrage, the civilians knew what to do. They stopped the major bleeding of the wounded using makeshift tourniquets made from bandages and clothes in the village, tightening them with sticks and other items until the patients were stabilized enough for immediate evacuation. Relying on a series of strategically placed handheld radios, the fleeing villagers communicated with other nearby villages and coordinated for a safe place to run, and they took their wounded with them. At the outset of the battle, local village defenders moved into place to slow the enemy advance and buy enough time for the families to escape.

Some of these young, brave men were killed and wounded. The defenders used cat tourniquets to stop the bleeding of the wounded and tactical field litters to quickly evacuate the patients when the defenders could no longer hold the line. When the battle subsided, the villagers who fled were provided rice and medicine that had been stockpiled in secure locations around the jungle. The critically wounded were taken to the bank of a large lake where a medical boat was waiting with medics, extra supplies, and advanced life support.

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