Can the US Survive Donald Trump? With Pod Save the US’ Ben Rhodes (Part Two)
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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm senior producer Mia Sarenti. In this episode, we return for part two of our live event with former White House Deputy National Security Advisor and co-host of Pod Save the US, Ben Rhodes. As the US marked two hundred and fifty years since Independence Day, Bruce joined us at Union Chapel to discuss America's past, present, and democratic future. He was in conversation with journalist and co-host of PodSave the UK, Coco Khan.
If you haven't heard part one, we recommend jumping back an episode to catch up. But now let's return to the conversation live at Union Chapel in London. Presumably, you know, pulling this book together. You would have seen these wonderful, powerful speeches that told a story about America, but also at the same time seen how criticised they were. And I wonder if currently politics is so afraid of the criticism. So in in this
Alternate timeline. Andy Burnham tomorrow he's gonna be do his first speech. Tap tap tap. Listen, guys, we just need to be honest. Britain is clapped. We're really clapped, we are having a bad time, we're not relevant, no one really likes us, uh we probably need to get some better friends. Um since the global financial crisis, what are we really doing, guys? It's j it just wouldn't happen. It wouldn't it's truthful. It would meet people where they are and their feelings about how much their life has declined since two thousand and eight. Certainly for young people, we all felt that. Many of us my generation graduated into that credit crunch and felt like it's all been downhill since.
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