Brené Brown on courageous leadership

If you do not care for and are able to connect with the people you lead, you will never see performance. Period. Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the science of what makes us tick. I'm an organizational psychologist, and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

Brenee Brown is a researcher and storyteller who's changed the way I think about vulnerability, shame, empathy, and leadership. She hosts the podcast Dare to Lead, where I've loved being a recurring guest, and she's given some of the most popular TED talks of all time, and written six number one New York Times bestselling books. I hosted Brene for a live conversation in the Authors at Wharton series to talk about her brand new book. strong ground. Brene Brown, so excited to have you at Wharton.

Thank you. Nice to be here. She delivers a powerful message about courageous leadership that the world desperately needs. And our back and forth made my brain buzz and my heart tingle in the best possible ways. So I I was at an event last week in New York.

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