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#85 Bethany McLean: Crafting a Narrative

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There's this idea that the business world is hard and cold and rational and it's not. It's incredibly emotional. And everybody is biased toward belief because most people stand to make money if a stock goes up. It's that great quote from the end of The Sun also Rises. Isn't it pretty to think so? It's always prettier to think so than it is to say Do not think so. It's particularly true in business because most people want to make money. Welcome. I'm Shane Parish and you're listening to The Knowledge Project, a podcast dedicated to mastering the best of what other people have already figured out. This podcast and our website ffs.blog help you better understand yourself and the world around you by exploring the methods, ideas, and mental models from some of the most incredible people in the world.

If you enjoy this podcast, we've created a premium version that brings you even more. You'll get ad-free versions of the show, like you won't have to hear me say this. Early access to episodes, you would've got this last week. transcripts and so much more. For the price of a couple cups of coffee, you can help us out. If you want to learn more now, head on over to fs.blog slash podcast or check out the show notes for a link. Today I'm talking with the remarkable Bethany McLean, who is one of the best investigative journalists in the world.

In this in-depth interview, we talk about the role of journalism in society, the investigative process and Ron, what happens in the wake of exposure, the ways we're irrational and emotional, and so much more. It's time to listen and learn. Bethany, I'm so happy to get to talk to you today. Thank you for having me. You wrote one of the most fascinating books.

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