Time Management: Trading Time Scarcity for Abundance with Laura Vanderkam

Hello and welcome back to Beyond the To-do List, a podcast about productivity. I'm your host Eric Fisher, and today's guest has been on the show so many times, even from the very beginning, and for good reason, it is Laura Vanderkam. She spent over a decade studying how people actually spend their time, and her new book, Big Time, A Simple Path to Time Abundance, might be her most important argument yet, that time isn't the scarce resource you think it is, and the story you tell yourself about having none of it? is the thing actually costing you. We get into why you're probably not more overworked than you think, why complexity isn't the enemy, chaos is, and what it looks like to read War and Peace one chapter a day. So if you think that you don't have enough time for anything, I dare you to challenge that thought and listen in. as you enjoy this conversation with Laura Vandercam.

Well, this week it is my privilege to welcome back to the show Laura Vandercam. Laura, welcome back. Thanks so much for having me again. I really appreciate it. Yeah. Well, it's funny because the last time I talked to you, I was on your show, which I'll make sure to put that in the show notes, by the way, before breakfast. That was a great time. A unique show. A unique format. Also So

It's been a lot of fun to do interviews for that show. I've gotten to talk with so many fascinating people and you know, share that with with my listeners. So I I'm glad you could come on. Yeah. So and if you ever hey, I'm here I am publicly self inviting myself again. Yeah, let me put it this way. Let me reframe. If you ever need me to come back, I am more than willing, but under no contract to do so. So there you go. Eric we'll f we'll find a week where I'm like, Oh gosh, I don't have any guests. There you go. What do we do? We're gonna do Eric again. In a pinch, when you really need somebody last minute I'm your guy. There you go. All right. We'll have that. We'll have that for you. And speaking of time, y that's I I mean that's the thing you talk about. You've written A hundred and sixty eight hours. Off the clock.

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