Abundance: A New Blueprint for Liberal Politics, With Derek Thompson
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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. I'm producer Mia Sorrenti. What if the biggest threat to liberal democracy isn't authoritarianism, but our failure to build? On today's episode, we're joined by journalist Derek Thompson to unpack Abundance, a new vision of progressive politics co-authored by Thompson and Ezra Klein. In it, Klein and Thompson trace the political, economic and cultural barriers to progress.
and propose a path towards a politics of abundance. Derek Thompson is a staff writer at The Atlantic, host of the Plain English podcast, and the author of the international bestseller Hitmakers. Carl Miller, writer and fellow at Demos, joins Thompson to discuss the book and everything from housing policy to the failures of degrowth. Let's join Carl now with more. Welcome to Intelligence Square, Derek.
Thank you very much. It's good to be here. So I think it's safe to say, Derek, that the the book has hit a nerve in the aftermath of obviously the election of of Donald Trump. When did you start writing it? I mean, they've obviously been gestating these ideas with you and Ezra for a while, but was it in the kind of white heat aftermath of the election that you wanted to put this together into a book?
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